Sessions +1 through +5: DP tracker investigation, determination, and removal plan#47
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@copilot Update the documentation with your findings and plan the next 3 sessions - At each session ensure that TEMPO_WORK_SUMMARY.md is updated with current state, next steps and any further information required for the subsequent sessions. |
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Documentation updated with DP bug findings and Sessions +1/+2/+3 planned (commit 6a0b94e). Key Updates:
Current Accurate Status:
Ready to proceed with Session +1 when approved. |
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@copilot Review TEMPO_WORK_SUMMARY.md. Proceed to undertake the tasks and work outlined in Session +1. Ensure you document the current session and outcomes in TEMPO_WORK_SUMMARY.md. |
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Session +1 completed (commit fc62f8c). Created comprehensive debug test infrastructure and identified critical root cause. Tests Created:
CRITICAL FINDING: DP tracker is stuck at ~72 BPM regardless of actual tempo. Root cause: DP is detecting the beat extraction calls (every 8 frames) instead of musical beats! The stuck value (72 BPM) = 8 frames × (44100/256) / 60 = periodic extraction frequency. Evidence:
Additional Bug: Tempo prior std validation limits to ≤10 BPM but default is 20 BPM. Session +2 will fix: (1) beat extraction periodicity, (2) tempo prior validation, (3) onset signal usage. Expected outcome: DP will adapt properly and achieve ≥80% detection. Documentation updated in TEMPO_WORK_SUMMARY.md with detailed findings. Warning Firewall rules blocked me from connecting to one or more addresses (expand for details)I tried to connect to the following addresses, but was blocked by firewall rules:
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@copilot Review TEMPO_WORK_SUMMARY.md. Proceed to undertake the tasks and work outlined in Session +2. Ensure you document the current session and outcomes in TEMPO_WORK_SUMMARY.md. |
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Session +2 completed (commits d4ee866, eab16e1). Attempted 5 different fixes but discovered the root cause is deeper than extraction strategy. Critical Finding: DP tracker works perfectly with synthetic beats (138-140 BPM ✅) but fails completely with real audio (~72 BPM ❌). The issue is NOT extraction timing - it's how DP processes real audio onset streams. Fixes Attempted (All Failed):
Root Cause: Real audio has continuous varying onset values (0.0-2.0), not clear beat/silence patterns like synthetic tests. DP needs preprocessing or different observation model. Session +3 Plan Updated:
Documentation updated in TEMPO_WORK_SUMMARY.md. Ready for Session +3 with clear path forward. Warning Firewall rules blocked me from connecting to one or more addresses (expand for details)I tried to connect to the following addresses, but was blocked by firewall rules:
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@copilot Review TEMPO_WORK_SUMMARY.md. Proceed to undertake the tasks and work outlined in Session +3. Ensure you document the current session and outcomes in TEMPO_WORK_SUMMARY.md. When you are finished, create a plan for the next three sessions. |
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Session +3 completed (commits 73800eb, d5e383e). Attempted multiple onset preprocessing strategies but DP tracker remains broken at 17% detection. Session +3 Attempts (All Failed):
Result: DP still stuck at 72-83 BPM despite ALL preprocessing strategies. This proves the problem is deeper than onset signal quality. Critical Conclusion: After 3 sessions of fixes (extraction strategies, onset preprocessing), DP tracker integration remains fundamentally broken. Basic test proves algorithm works (138-140 BPM ✅), but integration fails regardless of approach. Next 3 Sessions Planned:
Current Production Recommendation:
Documentation updated in TEMPO_WORK_SUMMARY.md with honest assessment and detailed plans for Sessions +4/+5/+6. Warning Firewall rules blocked me from connecting to one or more addresses (expand for details)I tried to connect to the following addresses, but was blocked by firewall rules:
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@copilot Review TEMPO_WORK_SUMMARY.md. Proceed to undertake the tasks and work outlined in Session +4. Ensure you document the current session and outcomes in TEMPO_WORK_SUMMARY.md. |
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Session +4 completed (commit e15e3dc). Investigation confirmed DP tracker integration is fundamentally flawed. Key Finding: After 4 sessions of attempted fixes, DP tracker cannot work with real-time streaming integration. Ellis (2007) algorithm requires batch processing with single extraction, incompatible with continuous feeding + periodic extraction. Evidence:
Decision: NO-GO on fixing DP
Session +5 Direction: Option B - Mark as Research-Only
Current benchmark confirms:
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@copilot DP is not suitable for this project. Update the session plans in TEMPO_WORK_SUMMARY.md with a plan to remove all DP related changes to all files. Ensure that any tests related to DP are removed. Ensure that other tempo tests remain functional. There are a lot of changes related to DP - ensure that you have carefully reviewed the codebase and commits to identify all works required. Your plan should be session based - break the sessions up logically and methodically break up tasks within the sessions. Document your work and session plans in TEMPO_WORK_SUMMARY.md for actioning in the next sessions. |
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Comprehensive DP removal plan created and documented (commit ccb7478). Plan Structure: 4 discrete sessions (+5A/B/C/D) Session +5A: Delete 9 DP test files, update meson.build (73→64 tests) Scope Identified:
All tasks detailed in TEMPO_WORK_SUMMARY.md with validation commands, success criteria, and timeline (~6-7 hours total). Ready to execute Session +5A when approved. |
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Problem
Validated TEMPO_WORK_SUMMARY.md and discovered DP tracker producing identical results to autocorrelation despite being "enabled". Investigation revealed DP tracker was never actually running - always falling back to autocorrelation.
Root Cause
DP tracker requires periodic
get_beats()calls to populate internal state (num_beats), but integration only calleddo()andget_bpm():Since
num_beatsonly gets populated inget_beats()(never called),get_bpm()always returned 0 → fallback to autocorrelation.Changes
Integration Fix (Partial - Created New Bug)
aubio_dptracker_get_beats()calls every 8 frames inaubio_beattracking_feed_tempogram()dp_frame_countfield to track extraction frequencyaubio_beattracking_set_use_dp()Session 4 Additions (as planned)
test-dptracker-performance.c: Memory/CPU profilingtest-tempo-dp-gradual.c: Accelerando/ritardando testingSession 5 Additions (as planned)
Session +1: Test Ecosystem Expansion (COMPLETED)
Created
test-dptracker-debug.c(14.6 KB): Comprehensive diagnostic toolCreated
test-dptracker-unit.c(11.9 KB): Component unit testsRoot Cause Identified: DP tracker stuck at ~72 BPM regardless of actual tempo
Session +2: Fix Planning and Attempts (COMPLETED)
Attempted 5 different fix strategies - all unsuccessful at solving the main issue:
Critical Discovery: The problem is NOT the extraction strategy
Real Root Cause Identified:
Session +3: Onset Preprocessing Attempts (COMPLETED - UNSUCCESSFUL)
Attempted 3 different onset preprocessing strategies - all unsuccessful:
Created
test-onset-peak-analysis.c: Diagnostic tool to analyze onset stream characteristicsCritical Discovery: Onset preprocessing is NOT the solution
Session +4: Deep Investigation and Final Determination (COMPLETED)
Investigation Tasks Completed:
test-dptracker-internal.c(attempted internal logging)Final Determination: DP tracker integration is fundamentally flawed
Root Cause (Final): Paradigm mismatch
Decision: DP tracker is not viable for this project
Session +5: DP Removal Plan (COMPLETED)
Comprehensive removal plan created with detailed 4-session breakdown:
Scope identified:
Plan documented in TEMPO_WORK_SUMMARY.md with:
Documentation Updates
Current Status
DP tracker confirmed as not viable for this project:
Sessions +1/+2/+3/+4/+5 Findings:
Additional bugs fixed:
All previous DP performance claims were measuring autocorrelation fallback - documentation has been corrected.
Session +1 Results
Diagnostic Test Findings:
*Only "passes" because closest to stuck value
Unit Test Results:
Session +2 Results
Fix Attempts Summary:
All extraction-based fixes failed because the root cause is not extraction timing but onset signal processing:
Session +3 Results
Onset Preprocessing Attempts Summary:
All preprocessing strategies failed - problem is deeper than signal quality:
Session +4 Results
Investigation and Final Determination:
Confirmed fundamental design incompatibility:
Evidence from 4 Sessions:
Session +5 Results
DP Removal Plan Created:
Comprehensive 4-session plan to remove all DP code:
Scope:
Next Steps
Sessions +5A/B/C/D: Execute DP removal plan (READY)
Recommendations
Final Production Recommendation:
Warning
DP tracker integration is fundamentally flawed and not viable for this project. After 4 sessions of investigation and 15+ fix attempts (extraction strategies in Session +2, onset preprocessing in Session +3, deep investigation in Session +4), the issue persists. Final determination: Ellis (2007) batch processing algorithm is incompatible with real-time streaming integration. Session +5 created comprehensive removal plan (4 sessions) to cleanly remove all DP code. All previous performance claims (83% detection, matches autocorr) were incorrect - they measured autocorrelation fallback. Documentation has been corrected.
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